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. >> and here is the other striking political moment. john mccain explains what he thinks will be necessary to pass this bill, including what he calls the leadership of president obama. let's listen to this. >> i am confident the majority of both houses, led by the president of the united states, who made this a major campaign issue, that we will succeed. but we're not going to get everybody on board. >> steve kornacki, nothing prove s more strongly than that, that elections do have consequences. >> i can't help but think with john mccain, you're looking at a protection of legacy there. his reputation as a maverick was a bit over sold, what it really reflects, the guy is a sore loser, we saw it in the wake of the 2002 election. he was a very conservative member of the senate who happened to lose to george w. bush and took out all the grudges of george w. bush, then he was a mavericky liberal. went back to the right, now you have a guy here his term is going to be up in 2016. he will be 80 years old. this is an issue he really cares about
. >> and here is the other striking political moment. john mccain explains what he thinks will be necessary to pass this bill, including what he calls the leadership of president obama. let's listen to this. >> i am confident the majority of both houses, led by the president of the united states, who made this a major campaign issue, that we will succeed. but we're not going to get everybody on board. >> steve kornacki, nothing prove s more strongly than that, that elections...
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>> well, there's a fundament fall political realignment underway in this country. and wliel obama realigns, the republicans are in decline. and they really have three choices. one of which they've seenl to have already gotten rid of. secondly, they can destabilize the economy. that's what they tried to do for years moving up toward the 2012 election. it didn't work. but i think they might try it again. paul ryan on meet the press last sunday sounded very interesting in letting the sequestration go into effect, which we saw today would have bad effects on the economy. third, in lincoln's phase, they could disenthrall themselves. but when you look at what happened to marco rubio in the last day, senator david vitter of louisiana called him amazingly naive. i think the republican party is trapped between what it has to do to succeed and survive and its tea party elements which are going to ghand purity. >> now when you look at cynthia, the fact that american people say clearly that any number opposed support the president's agenda, 53% support same-sex marriage, 62% s
>> well, there's a fundament fall political realignment underway in this country. and wliel obama realigns, the republicans are in decline. and they really have three choices. one of which they've seenl to have already gotten rid of. secondly, they can destabilize the economy. that's what they tried to do for years moving up toward the 2012 election. it didn't work. but i think they might try it again. paul ryan on meet the press last sunday sounded very interesting in letting the...
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. >> the political argument that is looking at marco rubio. we know it's the number you see on the screen. obama over romney over latino voters. you have the growing latino areas. i wonder if there is a second argument that republicans are considering or ought to consider. that is how they are toned on this and defined the rhetoric and affects non-latino voters. how much do you think this hurt the republican party's brain that it took this long to get to this point on this issue? >> well, the argument is also that when you want compassionate conservatism, it's not just the target group, but also for john latinos. the fiscal conservative who is may not love or hate latinos, but they cringe at the rhetoric. i agree that this is not just an issue about latinos, but softening the general image of the republican party. it's gone so far to the right with the peak of the 2010 tea party movement, that they try to buff the edges out. >> the first thing is border security. with enforcement promises never materialized, that is untrue. the 2007 bill asked
. >> the political argument that is looking at marco rubio. we know it's the number you see on the screen. obama over romney over latino voters. you have the growing latino areas. i wonder if there is a second argument that republicans are considering or ought to consider. that is how they are toned on this and defined the rhetoric and affects non-latino voters. how much do you think this hurt the republican party's brain that it took this long to get to this point on this issue? >>...
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today with president obama, there are 21,000. no president in american history has committed as many resources and as much manpower to securing the border as this president has, so those measurements need to be objective and they can't be left to the subjective whims of folks who don't have a political incentive to say the border is secure. >> before we let you go, congressman, we know democrats are mobilizing efforts to turn texas blue. what do you think of those efforts? are we getting closer to cobalt? >> i think we are. i think the republican party in texas especially, quite frankly, has gone off the rails. you have the hard right that now controls the party in texas as their elected leaders, so there are many of us working very hard who believe that the interests and the values of everyday texans are not served by the people, by the republicans in office right now. >> congressman joaquin castro for episode one of the castro chronicles. thank you for joining us, as always. >> thank you, alex. >>> coming up, baltimore ravens'
today with president obama, there are 21,000. no president in american history has committed as many resources and as much manpower to securing the border as this president has, so those measurements need to be objective and they can't be left to the subjective whims of folks who don't have a political incentive to say the border is secure. >> before we let you go, congressman, we know democrats are mobilizing efforts to turn texas blue. what do you think of those efforts? are we getting...
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. >> working with and indeed learning for the congressional delegation and president obama, i know i can help move forward the interest of this great state in this temporary period and i look forward to this honor of service. >> joining me now, politics reporter for boston globe. thank you for your time. let's get into the decision by duvall patrick. >> the govern nor was close about his decision making process and he did name a short list. a lot of names were out there. he chose someone loyal to him. policy-wise, there is no daylight between them. the governor likes personal and inspiring stars that he has. mo cowan has been a trusted aide, someone he relied on and rolling out ambitious policy agenda pieces. >> we know that barney frank sought this interim appointment on a couple of shows on msnbc and released a statement saying i know mr. cowan is committed to working hard and in socially fair and economically efficient matter on pending budget issues. i look forward to the election and providing president obama the support he deserves in carrying out the mandate he received in nov
. >> working with and indeed learning for the congressional delegation and president obama, i know i can help move forward the interest of this great state in this temporary period and i look forward to this honor of service. >> joining me now, politics reporter for boston globe. thank you for your time. let's get into the decision by duvall patrick. >> the govern nor was close about his decision making process and he did name a short list. a lot of names were out there. he...
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hay out of an issue. >> obama is seeking political victory. obama doesn't care about enforcing existing law. so people say why will he enforce anything that is new. >> once again, limbaugh is clearly delusional. one of the reasons we need immigration reform is because there were a record number of deportations last year. president obama has presided over 1.5 million deportations in four years. it took w. eight years to deport 2 million people. but marco rubio still went on air with the peddler of lies to kick obama on immigration. >> obama is not going to be president forever. as long as the next four years may seem, he won't be president forever. we have to write laws with that in mind as well. >> president obama agrees with marco rubio and other senators on almost every aspect of immigration reform. but republicans are not doing this because they are interested in real reform. john mccain actually told us the truth. they are doing it so they can win elections. meanwhile, our current immigration fiasco takes a tremendous toll. now, listen to
hay out of an issue. >> obama is seeking political victory. obama doesn't care about enforcing existing law. so people say why will he enforce anything that is new. >> once again, limbaugh is clearly delusional. one of the reasons we need immigration reform is because there were a record number of deportations last year. president obama has presided over 1.5 million deportations in four years. it took w. eight years to deport 2 million people. but marco rubio still went on air with...
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their entire indictment of barack obama is, he's mean! that's pathetic. >> right. >> are you serious? >> yes, she is serious, ron. we just saw one of our fellow conservatives talking about the president's plan to outlaw fox news. actually all the president pointed out and i'm quoting was that if a republican member of congress is not punished by fox news or by rush limbaugh for working with a democrat on a bill of common interest, then you'll see more of them doing it. which i don't know, ron, sounds pretty obvious to me, but are you also losing sleep at night because you're afraid the president wants to take away your fox news and your guns? >> you know, i'm very happy to come on msnbc and say thank god for fox news. the fact of the matter is without fox news we'd still think that benghazi, that that attack, that terrorist attack happened because of a video. without katherine and special report and the hard news people. by the way, they have more hard news people than msnbc, cnn, and everybody else -- >> sorry, ron, ron, ron, i accept yo
their entire indictment of barack obama is, he's mean! that's pathetic. >> right. >> are you serious? >> yes, she is serious, ron. we just saw one of our fellow conservatives talking about the president's plan to outlaw fox news. actually all the president pointed out and i'm quoting was that if a republican member of congress is not punished by fox news or by rush limbaugh for working with a democrat on a bill of common interest, then you'll see more of them doing it. which i...
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. >> how could the political unrest in egypt impact president obama's second term? you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ coughs ] [ angry gibberish ] i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is! [ angry gibberish ] sdwleerchlgts as violence continues for the fifth straight day across the country. an opposition leaders have rejected president morsi's sunday night call for dialogue. so far the political crisis has left 50 dead and many more injured. nbc's amman mojadin joins from yous cairo. is there any resolution in sight, or is this thing still escalating? >> reporter: well, right now the situation remains extremely tense. in fact, a short while ago you can probably see it in those pictures tahrir square. they set this on fire as thousands cheered on. in the cities of -- in fact, in
. >> how could the political unrest in egypt impact president obama's second term? you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ coughs ] [ angry gibberish ] i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is! [ angry...
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to make barack obama a one-term president, and now mcconnell finds some tough sledding in his own bid for re-election. a new poll by the louisville carrier journal finds just 17% of kentucky voters, about 1 in 6, plan to support the senator when he runs for re-election. not a good start, mitch. twice as many say they're going to vote against him. again, not a good start, senator. and to make things worse for mcconnell, democratic groups on the left if there are any in kentucky are vowing to work with tea party groups on the right to oust him during the republican party. primary. they're going to double-team this guy. good luck there, mitch. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." anybody who watches "hardball" knows i love politics. another thing i love are movies and tv shows about politics, and i can't remember a time when there were more great films and shows to choose from. look at this. "lincoln," "argo," all on the sbig screen. sitcoms like 1600 penn and dramas like homeland, the president's favorite on tv. what this tells me is i'm not alone. americans are into pol
to make barack obama a one-term president, and now mcconnell finds some tough sledding in his own bid for re-election. a new poll by the louisville carrier journal finds just 17% of kentucky voters, about 1 in 6, plan to support the senator when he runs for re-election. not a good start, mitch. twice as many say they're going to vote against him. again, not a good start, senator. and to make things worse for mcconnell, democratic groups on the left if there are any in kentucky are vowing to...
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the romney team told him not to, and so president obama moved quickly with his dream proposals. >> so we never got that detailed plan from marco rubio to address the problem of kids who are brought here illegal. a big opportunity for marco rubio to show political skills, he is now the emissary to conservative republicans in the house and conservative news media to make the case that this is not amnesty, that this is an acceptable proposal that they could embrace, and if he manages to do that, that will be a great achievement on his part for a pretty junior senator. >> thanks very much. susan page, chris, thanks both. joining me now for more on the immigration debate, minnesota senator amy, member of the joint economic committee. this is a big deal economically potentially, senator, because as business people are telling you and as i'm hearing from business people, college presidents and others as i'm sure you've heard this is a major economic component where we're training young people from around the world giving them ph.d.s and then kicking them out. >> exactly. that's why senator h
the romney team told him not to, and so president obama moved quickly with his dream proposals. >> so we never got that detailed plan from marco rubio to address the problem of kids who are brought here illegal. a big opportunity for marco rubio to show political skills, he is now the emissary to conservative republicans in the house and conservative news media to make the case that this is not amnesty, that this is an acceptable proposal that they could embrace, and if he manages to do...
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politics is always an open competition. in that interview, she talked about how the hard fought 2008 campaign, president obama and bill clinton made an mends. sheer is what she said first here on "the daily rundown." >> what was the break through the turning point for president clinton and president obama do you think? >> i think bill certainly worked very hard for the president in the '08 general election. he also consulted with the white house on some of the economic issues. and was very committed to you know, being as good of a supporter as he possibly could. and they just got to know each other more than they ever had before. i don't think there had been an opportunity for them to do that before this last four years. >> all started in that 2010. tuck see the rest of clinton's interview with andrea mitchell. nobody knows the clintons better than andrea mitchell at our network, andrea mitchell reports at 1:00. >> up next, senator lamar alexander will be here next to talk. plus, egypt is on the brink again two years after
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it was in question, and it was in part because of political decisions that had been made prior to the obama administration, but also because of the economic crisis and the feeling that somehow america had caused this, and so part of the responsibility i had was to go out, fly the flag, restore that confidence, make it clear that our leadership was intact, to set the table for the pivot to asia, to dealing with the arab revolution, to restoring really close relationships with our partners in europe, looking to enhance the neighborhood in latin america, and on so many issues, whether it was putting together international coalitions with iran and north korea, figuring out what to do with libya that would bring an unprecedented coalition between arab and nato countries, or whether it was just looking down the road at how we were doing diplomacy and introducing new tools into that mix, it was a very different time than ten, 20, 30, 40 years ago. i've kidded our mutual friend, henry kissinger, think how impossible it would have been for him to sneak off to china in the age of cell phones, t
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, we speak monolithically about race and racial subgroups in this country, and, yet, we look at the obama coalition, which everybody says it is the sort of american coalition moving forward. you know, to what degree do you think that really changes the racism in near term? we talked about immigration in the last segment, but is this something we're going to start feeling in 2014 and 2016 and 2020, or is this the, like, 25 year change? >> well, i think your blow-up about appropriation, that's something that we're going to see a lot of, right? it's something that's making people both in kind of what's left of there being a dominant culture and in minority communities incredibly uncomfortable. it's a culture that people feel increasingly comfortable pulling in things that used to be off limits in some way. there's a web culture where people are constantly picking things up and remixing them in ways that disturb their elders. i think some people are going to have to get used to. >> that's you embodying that givening the fact that you are able to make an incredible 76-layer nacho dip for -- >>
, we speak monolithically about race and racial subgroups in this country, and, yet, we look at the obama coalition, which everybody says it is the sort of american coalition moving forward. you know, to what degree do you think that really changes the racism in near term? we talked about immigration in the last segment, but is this something we're going to start feeling in 2014 and 2016 and 2020, or is this the, like, 25 year change? >> well, i think your blow-up about appropriation,...
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events for president obama, showing up in campaign events in new hampshire and elsewhere, with their guns on display. and it was the gun rights groups trying to out do the nra with more inflammatory retroactive, today, wayne lapierre and the nra were determined not to allow any gun rights fanaticics to sound crazier than wayne lapierre. joining me now, msnbc's krystal ball, and krystal, it seems to me that the tea party has had its effect on the nra, nudging them even further into the crazy season. >> yes, it seems to be. the nra is an elitist group, sending out the anecdotes, what you heard gail trotter remark about, they questions their membership that obama and the democrats want to come for their guns. and that has worked for a long time. but what we're seeing now, i think what we're seeing today is the death of a caricature, that stuff worked for so long. but what are we talking about? assault weapons ban, background checks for everyone. all of that makes reasonable sense to a lot of people, including a lot of nra members. >> frank smyth, take us through the journey that the nra
events for president obama, showing up in campaign events in new hampshire and elsewhere, with their guns on display. and it was the gun rights groups trying to out do the nra with more inflammatory retroactive, today, wayne lapierre and the nra were determined not to allow any gun rights fanaticics to sound crazier than wayne lapierre. joining me now, msnbc's krystal ball, and krystal, it seems to me that the tea party has had its effect on the nra, nudging them even further into the crazy...
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proven not to work. >> does the travel ban stay in place for the entire second term of obama? we'll see. >>> well, we're just a few minutes away now from the start of chuck hagel's confirmation hearing. we're going to bring that to you live as soon as it starts. plus, another one of president obama's cabinet picks hits a little bit of a bump in the road. democrats publicly criticizing cia nominee, john brennan. my gaggle's going to join me next early as we prepare for hagel and other stuff. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. a quiet day for him on the record, with the focus on chuck hagel. but vice president biden, by the way, goes up to capitol hill to meet with senate democrats on guns. you're watching "the daily rundown," only on msnbc. people love our potpourri parties. it's a smell of a good time. this is the juniper! oh that is magical. [ male announcer ] when you combine creamy velveeta with zesty rotel tomatoes and green chiles, you'll get a bowl of queso that makes even this get-together better. you'll get a bowl of queso so if ydead battery,t tire, need
proven not to work. >> does the travel ban stay in place for the entire second term of obama? we'll see. >>> well, we're just a few minutes away now from the start of chuck hagel's confirmation hearing. we're going to bring that to you live as soon as it starts. plus, another one of president obama's cabinet picks hits a little bit of a bump in the road. democrats publicly criticizing cia nominee, john brennan. my gaggle's going to join me next early as we prepare for hagel and...
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obama hasn't fundamentally changed obama's political sfraukture. he goes onto declare that "republicans just have a perception problem with hispanics. a perception problem? does he understand the amount of change that we've seen happen in this country? and how people are not just talking about perception? but reality and the realities have changed? >> well, i think carl rove of 2012 needs to have a conversation with carl rove of 2004 when he realized in 2004, carl rove nuf that he needed the hispanic vote. and he recognized he didn't need every single catholic and he didn't need every single person of color. he just needed a percentage off the top in order to move the republican agenda forward. since then, the republican party has gone off the deep enld. and they're also losing, as a result of caterering to the tea party so quickly. they're also actually losing a lot of moderate republicans. not only is the country more diverse, its's younger and it has a lot of single women and it has asians running and african americans and latinos. it's a whole
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. >>> and now here's your first look at this morning's dish of "scrambled politics." president obama's 23 executive orders on gun control are still being attacked by conservative lawmakers in washington. republican congressman steve stockman of texas has introduced a bill to outlaw the orders as unconstitutional. previously, he threatened to file impeachment proceedings against the president because of the executive orders. beyonce singing the national anthem sparked a lot of reaction over lip syncing. the performance was praised bay reeja franklin who said she did a beautiful job. and aretha who sang at the 2009 inauguration in that hat said she even might prerecord in the future. clint east wad's performance at the republican national convention when he talked to an empty chair, that was a big attention getter. now come word that chair he used is on display in the chair of the rnc chair in the office of the rnc chair. john boehner gave a talk to the republican think-tank on tuesday about the inauguration. he said obama wants to annihilate the republican party and bo
. >>> and now here's your first look at this morning's dish of "scrambled politics." president obama's 23 executive orders on gun control are still being attacked by conservative lawmakers in washington. republican congressman steve stockman of texas has introduced a bill to outlaw the orders as unconstitutional. previously, he threatened to file impeachment proceedings against the president because of the executive orders. beyonce singing the national anthem sparked a lot of...
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to do that political heavy lifting, the white house announced a new political strategy, or at least a new political tactic to try to get this done. the 2012 obama/biden reelection campaign would morph itself into an advocacy group, a powerful democratic grassroots activism machine. the old campaign would transfer to this new group its vast database of information about obama supporters, about voters. and then the new group would mobilize supporters to mobilize the president's agenda now, the same way they supported him all the way into the white house last year. this new group, organizing for action, is a new phenomenon in politics. this has not been done before. and a group like this could be a fearsome and unique tool if it works in politics the way its organizers expect it to work. we reported the other night that when the folks at organizing for action put out their very first e-mail solicitation on a policy issue, they picked gun reform as the issue. they urged those millions of voters on their contact list to call their member of congress immediately, and to tell their member of
to do that political heavy lifting, the white house announced a new political strategy, or at least a new political tactic to try to get this done. the 2012 obama/biden reelection campaign would morph itself into an advocacy group, a powerful democratic grassroots activism machine. the old campaign would transfer to this new group its vast database of information about obama supporters, about voters. and then the new group would mobilize supporters to mobilize the president's agenda now, the...
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. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun control through congress will be tough and said "if you group up and your dad gave you a hunting rifle when you were 10 and you spent the day whim and your uncle and that became part of i don't are family traditions, you can see why you would be protective of that." ask if he ever fired a gun, the president went as far to say up at camp david we do skeet shooting all the time. the president will meet with law enforcement officials across america. it's looking more and more like by the way, that a background check bill is the vehicle that is most likely to get through the senate. on friday oklahoma republican sena
. >> in many ways this was obama pulling frankly a bill clinton, a politically shrewd move, all about the clintons and hillary ace political future. the joke is whether vice president joe biden has been peeled off the ceiling yet but on what may have been the more interesting obama interview published this weekend, the president talked gun control, the future of both parties and football with the "new republic" as they tried to relaunch. the president acknowledged getting gun...
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>> it's actually as totally revolutionized political communication. we saw it both in the success of the obama campaign in the fund raising arena and seen it in the ability of people to galvanize around a particular issue. that's what's so important about all of these things, the twitter and facebook. we use it extensively and it's a huge force. >> congressman yarmuth, thanks so much for taking the time. >> thank you, chris. >> as we watch gabby giffords continuing to come in. there is this level of emotion here. and really newtown took it to a level i don't think we've seen before. the parents have a piece in the "washington post," our country needs a new dialogue, one that doesn't follow the tired script of political squabbling. any improvement of our laws should not be decried as an attempt to take away rights. even those who lost the most are suggesting no such thing. >> do we need to see gabby giffords coming in and reminder of these 20 kids? >> apparently we do. there is a strong gun lobby and they oppose these things strongly. >> are they as st
>> it's actually as totally revolutionized political communication. we saw it both in the success of the obama campaign in the fund raising arena and seen it in the ability of people to galvanize around a particular issue. that's what's so important about all of these things, the twitter and facebook. we use it extensively and it's a huge force. >> congressman yarmuth, thanks so much for taking the time. >> thank you, chris. >> as we watch gabby giffords continuing to...
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right now, the work that is being done in democratic politics right now, led by president obama at the start of his second term is this effort to turn what has been long-standing majority support for liberal policies into appreciation that those policies aren't just individual free-floating technocratically good ideas that we agree on, those policies come from a worldview and a problem-solving approach that is in fact the governing philosophy of this country. we're a liberal country. we are not a center-right country the way the right always wants to tell us. we are a country where liberal policies are widely popular and, frankly, at the national level we express that right now by mostly voting for democrats. by a lot. that's the portrait of the country that the president was painting this week in his second inaugural, in tying this list of what get described as liberal policies to fundamental centrist, widely acknowledged, basically universal american values. >> we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain
right now, the work that is being done in democratic politics right now, led by president obama at the start of his second term is this effort to turn what has been long-standing majority support for liberal policies into appreciation that those policies aren't just individual free-floating technocratically good ideas that we agree on, those policies come from a worldview and a problem-solving approach that is in fact the governing philosophy of this country. we're a liberal country. we are not...
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now, the political piece of this, which is really interesting, is that the obama administration has a huge rule of law problem. they have got a rule of law problem moving back, meaning that the bush administration officials that were responsible for the illegality in the torture are not being prosecuted. they have a rule of law problem moving forward, which is they're trying to get these detainees through the eye of a political needle called the military commissions and they're trying to figure out what can we electrothrow on them? >> the process has been constructed around the paul 6 and the court decisions. >> let's make a broader pointing. i don't agree that rule of law has been thrown out the window. this is how it's important to get this right. as imperfect as the process has been under this president and the last one, if we don't get this right, if we don't get a tribunal process right, if we don't get the mechanisms right for assessing guilt and innocence among these people, that the battlefieldin sent i've is not to capture but to kill. that's something that we have to think r
now, the political piece of this, which is really interesting, is that the obama administration has a huge rule of law problem. they have got a rule of law problem moving back, meaning that the bush administration officials that were responsible for the illegality in the torture are not being prosecuted. they have a rule of law problem moving forward, which is they're trying to get these detainees through the eye of a political needle called the military commissions and they're trying to figure...
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i mean, she is her own political entity. this is a continuation of clintonism. >> i agree, i thought all the blind quotes sounded to me like joe biden people trying to sound like they could be anyone's people. i don't think if you're hillary clinton there is an issue about a private conversation. if you're hillary clinton and you want to go out there and do it, you will go out there, and crush who is in the primary, joe biden or cuomo, up need to. it seems much more of a joe biden-type argument, saying obviously we'll coordinate and work out. >> karen finney, joe biden is a great vice president, it is a job that is hard to be great at. he has found a way to be great at. is there any way he could be talked into it doing it for 16 years. >> the longest serving vice president in history. >> are you suggesting the joe biden-hillary clinton ticket? i had that thought today. he has actually made the role of vice president in the way i think she has re-made the role of secretary of state. i think the country would do well to have t
i mean, she is her own political entity. this is a continuation of clintonism. >> i agree, i thought all the blind quotes sounded to me like joe biden people trying to sound like they could be anyone's people. i don't think if you're hillary clinton there is an issue about a private conversation. if you're hillary clinton and you want to go out there and do it, you will go out there, and crush who is in the primary, joe biden or cuomo, up need to. it seems much more of a joe biden-type...
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his wife did endorse obama in that campaign. politics are personal. jim, there's some concern by some that assuming that chuck hagel gets confirmed he will be a weaker secretary of defense within the cabinet, that policy will be run even more so out of the white house, out of the nsc because he has gone through this process, and doesn't have a strong political base himself within the administration. >> well, you know, that was the rap against william cohen. if you remember, a republican who served under the president -- democratic administration of president clinton. now, if people here in the building say, look, you know, chuck hagel would be fine for us, including military uniformed service members because they understand, as you just pointed out, that the white house is going to be pulling the strings, turning the screws no matter who is the secretary of defenses. republican or democrat. i do want to set the record straight a little bit on this debate over the surge. now, senator hagel in the confirmation hearing said that 1,200 americans were kill
his wife did endorse obama in that campaign. politics are personal. jim, there's some concern by some that assuming that chuck hagel gets confirmed he will be a weaker secretary of defense within the cabinet, that policy will be run even more so out of the white house, out of the nsc because he has gone through this process, and doesn't have a strong political base himself within the administration. >> well, you know, that was the rap against william cohen. if you remember, a republican...
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you know, one, i think we all are aware of the basic sort of political contours of this. historic losses cost the republican party the election. that could harm them for decades to come from something republican party leaders i think all realize has to happen here. can they get the rank and file to go along? i was checking twitter in the break that caught my attention. one of the leaders in the house, one out leaders of the conservative movement who helped kill immigration reform in 2006, 2007 is steve king from iowa. he's had some pretty harsh things to say about immigrants in the years and now an open senate seat in iowa thanks to the retirement of tom harkin and the point of questions asking luke in the last segment was, there is a difference of republicans running statewide where there is a real stigma to be a nativist and republicans running in the safely republican districts where the biggest threat is a challenge of the right. steve king is suddenly making noises we have never heard him make in his life about how, you know, maybe he might be open to this idea of co
you know, one, i think we all are aware of the basic sort of political contours of this. historic losses cost the republican party the election. that could harm them for decades to come from something republican party leaders i think all realize has to happen here. can they get the rank and file to go along? i was checking twitter in the break that caught my attention. one of the leaders in the house, one out leaders of the conservative movement who helped kill immigration reform in 2006, 2007...
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not even the obama phenomenon matches the enthusiasm level that's here. could something change in three years? of course. three years a long time. but, remember, it's not really three years. if she wants to make a decision, she has to make a decision by next spring, spring of '14. if she make that is decision, she by and large preempts the democratic field. >> what do you tell joe biden that he should do between now and then to prepare to run if she doesn't run but prepare to hit the parachute if she does run? how does he prepare both? >> well, he does everything he's been doing. he goes at it like he's going to be a candidate because i think there's still a decent chance that hillary will decide not to run. i wouldn't bet on it but i think there's a decent chance and then joe becomes the front-runner. joe should continue to make contact, talk to givers. the problem for joe is, and people do love and respect joe, and i'm in that category, but the givers, the people who will decide who really is the most powerful candidate, they're all -- they all like joe
not even the obama phenomenon matches the enthusiasm level that's here. could something change in three years? of course. three years a long time. but, remember, it's not really three years. if she wants to make a decision, she has to make a decision by next spring, spring of '14. if she make that is decision, she by and large preempts the democratic field. >> what do you tell joe biden that he should do between now and then to prepare to run if she doesn't run but prepare to hit the...
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. >>> a day after his major speech on immigration in las vegas, president obama sat down for interviews with spanish language networks saying he hopes to have reform laws in place by the end of the year. >> really, the issue here is not so much technical as it is political. it's a matter of republicans and democrats coming together and finding a meeting of the minds and then making the case. and, you know, i'm hopeful that this can get done and i don't think that it should take many, many months. i think is something that we should be able to get done certainly this year and i'd like to see if we can get it done sooner in the first half of the year if possible. >> the president's proposals follow recommendations from a bipartisan group of eight senators. nar favor of a path to citizenship for 11 million undocumented workers in the country. but only after strengthening the nation's borders. he said his administration has been working hard on border security. >> i make no apologies for us enforcing the law as well as the work that we've done to strengthen border security. as a consequence
. >>> a day after his major speech on immigration in las vegas, president obama sat down for interviews with spanish language networks saying he hopes to have reform laws in place by the end of the year. >> really, the issue here is not so much technical as it is political. it's a matter of republicans and democrats coming together and finding a meeting of the minds and then making the case. and, you know, i'm hopeful that this can get done and i don't think that it should take...
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also did her a great favor by insulating her from the politics of the last four years. joe biden, i think, is going to be in the center of a lot of the big political fights over the next year and going to see his approval ratings probably take a beating. of course, playing kyoto say this isn't about 2016. what a fantastic launch for hillary clinton. should she decide to run. i think one of the things we have seen over the last elections is that the person who has some strong connection with a base who's a candidate almost drafted by the base does better. mitt romney didn't have that. john mccain didn't have that. i hazard to say i don't think biden has that either. any of the democrats i talked to always say clinton, clinton, clinton. it's time for a woman. i think this will be hillary clinton's big decision to make and my goodness, joe biden certainly can't be happy about that but i think this sort of speculation about biden, at least keeps sort of interest in obama's presidency. >> right. >> makes it more relevant going forward. >> and let's be real here. i mean, as a
also did her a great favor by insulating her from the politics of the last four years. joe biden, i think, is going to be in the center of a lot of the big political fights over the next year and going to see his approval ratings probably take a beating. of course, playing kyoto say this isn't about 2016. what a fantastic launch for hillary clinton. should she decide to run. i think one of the things we have seen over the last elections is that the person who has some strong connection with a...
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because that's where in politics a lot of times the real bitterness lingers. and, you know, bill clinton has had a harder time forgiving the president than hillary clinton has. and michelle obama i think has had a harder time burying the hatchet than president obama has. this was a very tough race in 2008. but what is interesting is that they seem to have some chemistry in that interview. it wasn't a kind of formal stiff -- >> it was pretty smooth, pretty natural. >> they had a connection with each other that was important for the country to see. >> all right, jonathan alter, great to have you with us. thank you so much. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. and rachel maddow of "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening, and thank you. >> you bet. >> thanks to you at home for staying with us this hour. the 50th state in the united states is of course hawaii. 49th state admitted the year before, alaska. so those were 49 and 50. those are the last two states admitted to the union in 1958 and 1959. what was the last state admitted before then? be
because that's where in politics a lot of times the real bitterness lingers. and, you know, bill clinton has had a harder time forgiving the president than hillary clinton has. and michelle obama i think has had a harder time burying the hatchet than president obama has. this was a very tough race in 2008. but what is interesting is that they seem to have some chemistry in that interview. it wasn't a kind of formal stiff -- >> it was pretty smooth, pretty natural. >> they had a...
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blame president obama for the polarized political climate zoosh i think instead of trying to bring people together was a manifesto for, hey, it's my way or the highway. i don't think that's necessarily productive. >> we will get a reality check on the grand ole party's grand ole problems next on "now." excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. >> what do you think the party must do better? where do we go in the future? this is your chance to make your voice heard, and we're listening. >> as the rnc begins its annual winter meeting in charlotte, chairman is soliciting ideas on how to renew, grow, and win. mretco reports that he will tell attendees tomorrow that "growing the par
blame president obama for the polarized political climate zoosh i think instead of trying to bring people together was a manifesto for, hey, it's my way or the highway. i don't think that's necessarily productive. >> we will get a reality check on the grand ole party's grand ole problems next on "now." excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my...
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force, which helped put president obama in the white house twice. let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steelworkers international organization. mr. gerard good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> is this an issue that is going to help the labor force in this country? if you have 11 million workers come out of the shadows -- and let's face it, well over in the 90% have got to be, they're not all felons is the point i'm making. how is this going to help the labor movement in this country? >> look, these are primarily good people that came to america in search of the american dream, in search of a better standard of living. if you go back to the days of when we were told about nafta, we were told nafta would solve the immigration issue from mexico, but in reality what it did is depress mexican wages, depress mexican opportunity. and those people came here in search of a better life. so what we've been fighting, the labor movement has been fighting for proper immigration reform now for going on almost 20 years. and i think t
force, which helped put president obama in the white house twice. let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steelworkers international organization. mr. gerard good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be here. >> is this an issue that is going to help the labor force in this country? if you have 11 million workers come out of the shadows -- and let's face it, well over in the 90% have got to be, they're not all felons is the point i'm making. how is this going to help...
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. >>> president obama has outlined a second term agenda that requires changing minds in washington. on gun regulation and immigration, the president has to turn some intangible political capital into results on the hill. first off an upbeat inauguration, the president not only has high favorability ratings. that has made some conservatives pretty nervous. >> i don't know that there's any stopping this. it's up to me and fox news. and i don't think fox news is that invested in this. but there's not -- i don't think there's any republican opposition to this of any majority consequence of size. we'll have to wait and see and find out. >> so far so good for immigration reformers, but today some card carrying members of the conservative media establishment came to rush's rescue. national review released a major resistance and criticism of this immigration deal. in a lead editorial titled "a pointless amnesty" the magazine says it's far from obvious there should be a path to citizenship. the editorial also casts a policy debate over undocumented workers which includes leading republicans
. >>> president obama has outlined a second term agenda that requires changing minds in washington. on gun regulation and immigration, the president has to turn some intangible political capital into results on the hill. first off an upbeat inauguration, the president not only has high favorability ratings. that has made some conservatives pretty nervous. >> i don't know that there's any stopping this. it's up to me and fox news. and i don't think fox news is that invested in...
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and as we well know, the people in the white house are experts at calculating president obama's political interest. and they're going to say, you know, how is this going to go? and they're also experts at looking at the question, and they will relook at it, is chuck hagel the right person for this job? because we may be going into four years of foreign policy and defense dust-ups and serious confrontations. this, arguably, is the most important cabinet appointment. as we learned in the susan rice non-nomination for secretary of state, they're willing in the white house to say, now, wait a minute. this isn't working out. this may not be the right person. and take that short-term hit. i think the real issue is how does the white house really look at it? i think now they're just going to wait it out. but time may not be on their side. >> chuck, it's donny. i want to go back to something you said about running the mock hearing. >> yeah. >> he could -- and i'd like to know what the white house's position or response to this is. you literally could have prepped him in seven minutes. there are b
and as we well know, the people in the white house are experts at calculating president obama's political interest. and they're going to say, you know, how is this going to go? and they're also experts at looking at the question, and they will relook at it, is chuck hagel the right person for this job? because we may be going into four years of foreign policy and defense dust-ups and serious confrontations. this, arguably, is the most important cabinet appointment. as we learned in the susan...
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remember a few years ago president obama was boxed in by immigration. he had put the enforcement into effect, but he hadn't sort of made the system more gentle, more welcoming. politically he was in a bad spot with latino voters. a ton of pressure. now the funny thing about the situation is that politically, just politically, this is a win for him either way. >> even the dream act was there. there was a question as to what was going to happen with that. now through executive order he is somer assaulting. >> you have bobby jindahl saying we can't be the stupid party anymore. who wins out? >> they're all wrong. they're talking about the problem with the party -- the problem with the party is policy. seven days after the election, the ohio legislature, i assume with the blessing of governor kasich passes -- defeated in mississippi. i mean, what were they thinking? what are they thinking? i think they've got to look at themselves and say we've got to control the tea party aspect of this party. we've got to get back to taking positions that ordinary american
remember a few years ago president obama was boxed in by immigration. he had put the enforcement into effect, but he hadn't sort of made the system more gentle, more welcoming. politically he was in a bad spot with latino voters. a ton of pressure. now the funny thing about the situation is that politically, just politically, this is a win for him either way. >> even the dream act was there. there was a question as to what was going to happen with that. now through executive order he is...
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